Comments on: N. Korea Tests Missile http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/ Military folks talking about Political yolks Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:35:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Another Army Wife http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-766 Another Army Wife Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:39:00 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-766 Having a husband that just spent a year sitting on the wire watching North Korea, I have some ideas for Obama, but it would make him not so popular anymore! North Korea has sat for too long! During one rotation my husband was on the wire, some North Korea soldiers shot at our soldiers! We never even fired back. They are making sure we know they will never quit, so I think we need to make them stop! Of course that is just my idea, and we do have to take the rest of the World into account! Who knows what side China would be on! I asked my husband about what he think North Korea would do if we left, and he said it would take a few days for North Korea to overrun South Korea! Something has to be done with this situation! I do have to say it makes me more nervous for my husband to be in Korea than Iraq!!! Having a husband that just spent a year sitting on the wire watching North Korea, I have some ideas for Obama, but it would make him not so popular anymore! North Korea has sat for too long! During one rotation my husband was on the wire, some North Korea soldiers shot at our soldiers! We never even fired back. They are making sure we know they will never quit, so I think we need to make them stop! Of course that is just my idea, and we do have to take the rest of the World into account! Who knows what side China would be on! I asked my husband about what he think North Korea would do if we left, and he said it would take a few days for North Korea to overrun South Korea! Something has to be done with this situation! I do have to say it makes me more nervous for my husband to be in Korea than Iraq!!!

]]> By: CJ http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-688 CJ Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:55:50 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-688 David, I agree that there were/are more terrorists in Somalia. But when was the last time that Somalia posed any REAL threat directly to this country. The terrorists in Somalia are largely directing their operations against Somalia and the coast. They are contained for the most part and I promise you that AFRICOM and the DOD is taking care of Somalia. The folks that took down the WTC are dead. We're still trying to find the people responsible for the planning of it. The unabomber hid out in Montana for over 20 years and yet this country thinks we can one man in a FOREIGN country immediately? I won't rehash the fact that we had numerous opportunities to have him handed to us on a silver platter. I'll agree that we should have put more troops in focused on securing the borders of Afghanistan under Bush's watch and this was a military failure. However, you have to also remember that Afghanistan was the first time our nation has had to fight that kind of war and we simply weren't ready for these types of challenges. We are NOW though! If could do it, I'm in favor of taking out Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran AND North Korea and just getting it over with. Obviously, that's impossible. "I’m just not sold on the original reason for Iraq at that point in time and probably never will." This is the problem of a short-sighted and forgetful nation. There wasn't one reason we went into Iraq. There were numerous. Like N. Korea, Iraq deliberately disobeyed resolution after resolution. It harbored terrorists. It made us THINK (and the world I might add) that it was building WMDs. It tried to kill a sitting US president. It invaded and tortured the citizens of two neighboring countries. Iraq under Saddam was a danger to the entire world and the fact that it sits on a large portion of the oil that runs that world is reason enough that the country needed to be stabilized. For the record, and the knowledge of everyone else here, David is a BIG troop supporter. We disagree widely on political issues, but I consider him a true friend. If he says something that makes you want to scratch your head, just reply with an even-handed comment and I assure you he will clarify his point or continue to make you scratch your head. ;) David, I agree that there were/are more terrorists in Somalia. But when was the last time that Somalia posed any REAL threat directly to this country. The terrorists in Somalia are largely directing their operations against Somalia and the coast. They are contained for the most part and I promise you that AFRICOM and the DOD is taking care of Somalia. The folks that took down the WTC are dead. We’re still trying to find the people responsible for the planning of it.

The unabomber hid out in Montana for over 20 years and yet this country thinks we can one man in a FOREIGN country immediately? I won’t rehash the fact that we had numerous opportunities to have him handed to us on a silver platter. I’ll agree that we should have put more troops in focused on securing the borders of Afghanistan under Bush’s watch and this was a military failure. However, you have to also remember that Afghanistan was the first time our nation has had to fight that kind of war and we simply weren’t ready for these types of challenges. We are NOW though! If could do it, I’m in favor of taking out Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran AND North Korea and just getting it over with. Obviously, that’s impossible.

“I’m just not sold on the original reason for Iraq at that point in time and probably never will.” This is the problem of a short-sighted and forgetful nation. There wasn’t one reason we went into Iraq. There were numerous. Like N. Korea, Iraq deliberately disobeyed resolution after resolution. It harbored terrorists. It made us THINK (and the world I might add) that it was building WMDs. It tried to kill a sitting US president. It invaded and tortured the citizens of two neighboring countries. Iraq under Saddam was a danger to the entire world and the fact that it sits on a large portion of the oil that runs that world is reason enough that the country needed to be stabilized.

For the record, and the knowledge of everyone else here, David is a BIG troop supporter. We disagree widely on political issues, but I consider him a true friend. If he says something that makes you want to scratch your head, just reply with an even-handed comment and I assure you he will clarify his point or continue to make you scratch your head. ;)

]]> By: NY-David http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-676 NY-David Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:04:37 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-676 I'll give this as an open challenge to anyone who can say what Obama should be doing about Korea. NY-David I’ll give this as an open challenge to anyone who can say what Obama should be doing about Korea.
NY-David

]]> By: NY-David http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-675 NY-David Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:01:54 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-675 CJ, I agree that Sadam was a major threat to the region. It had been widely reported and corroborated that he financed suicide bombers in Israel. And I correct myself, there were US-hating, jehadi-bound terrorists in Iraq. It could well be argued (depending on your definition of terrorists) that there were more in Somalia or The main issue that I've always held was that the folks we were fighting weren't the same ones that took down the WTC. While affiliations have been there of different AQ groups, I still have to ask why Iraq and not Afghanistan? In the best possible circumstances, Bush made a judgement error. I'd live with that as its easy for a schmuck like me to play Monday morning quarterback and say what should have been done. In the worst possible circumstances, Bush delivered an expensive war to some very appreciative benefactors. I don't like to think this way because I happen to think that Bush has more class then that, but you can't deny it being there. I certainly don't think Obama has won a prize in foreign policy as yet and there was a lot more to like about Condelizza Rice then Mrs. Clinton as far as experience. I'm just not sold on the original reason for Iraq at that point in time and probably never will. As this position sometimes makes me look as if I don't support our military, I'll refrain from bringing it up again on this site...unless Army Wife makes me :). NY-David CJ,
I agree that Sadam was a major threat to the region. It had been widely reported and corroborated that he financed suicide bombers in Israel. And I correct myself, there were US-hating, jehadi-bound terrorists in Iraq. It could well be argued (depending on your definition of terrorists) that there were more in Somalia or The main issue that I’ve always held was that the folks we were fighting weren’t the same ones that took down the WTC. While affiliations have been there of different AQ groups, I still have to ask why Iraq and not Afghanistan?
In the best possible circumstances, Bush made a judgement error. I’d live with that as its easy for a schmuck like me to play Monday morning quarterback and say what should have been done. In the worst possible circumstances, Bush delivered an expensive war to some very appreciative benefactors. I don’t like to think this way because I happen to think that Bush has more class then that, but you can’t deny it being there.
I certainly don’t think Obama has won a prize in foreign policy as yet and there was a lot more to like about Condelizza Rice then Mrs. Clinton as far as experience.
I’m just not sold on the original reason for Iraq at that point in time and probably never will.
As this position sometimes makes me look as if I don’t support our military, I’ll refrain from bringing it up again on this site…unless Army Wife makes me :) .
NY-David

]]> By: Army Wife http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-659 Army Wife Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:15:38 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-659 OMG! Now there were no terrorists in Iraq. The liberals aren't very educated and that is coming out loud and clear in our national security screw ups now. I'd take 4 more years of Bush over this dog and pony show...really! OMG! Now there were no terrorists in Iraq. The liberals aren’t very educated and that is coming out loud and clear in our national security screw ups now. I’d take 4 more years of Bush over this dog and pony show…really!

]]> By: CJ http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-650 CJ Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:33:40 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-650 David, why must you continue to spread the lies that there were no terrorists in Iraq? As a reader of my military blog, you know darn well that isn't the case. I've proven this over and over again. Not only did Saddam harbor such AQ terrorists as Abu Mussab al Zarqawi in Baghdad and give him hospital care, but he also funded Ansar al Islam in the Kurdish areas. I can't go much beyond that, but I've written about it over and over again. Secondly, Kim Jung Il did not have nukes in 2003. He does now, supposedly, and I'm with you that we should have done something. However, Kim also wasn't shooting at our warplanes and invading nations at will the way Saddam did. He also isn't a global influence with vast oil reserves that could affect the rest of the world. I will agree with I think you're alluding to that Obama is much weaker leader. Bush would have acted more boldly than Obama did. I agree, we should have completed our Axis of Evil world tour when we had the chance, but Bush was only allowed to serve two terms. David, why must you continue to spread the lies that there were no terrorists in Iraq? As a reader of my military blog, you know darn well that isn’t the case. I’ve proven this over and over again. Not only did Saddam harbor such AQ terrorists as Abu Mussab al Zarqawi in Baghdad and give him hospital care, but he also funded Ansar al Islam in the Kurdish areas. I can’t go much beyond that, but I’ve written about it over and over again.

Secondly, Kim Jung Il did not have nukes in 2003. He does now, supposedly, and I’m with you that we should have done something. However, Kim also wasn’t shooting at our warplanes and invading nations at will the way Saddam did. He also isn’t a global influence with vast oil reserves that could affect the rest of the world.

I will agree with I think you’re alluding to that Obama is much weaker leader. Bush would have acted more boldly than Obama did. I agree, we should have completed our Axis of Evil world tour when we had the chance, but Bush was only allowed to serve two terms.

]]> By: NY-David http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-640 NY-David Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:47:41 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-640 Let's see. If Bush had gone into North Korea in the same mannor he'd done in Iraq, this woudn't be an issue. But there were terrorists in Iraq...(not!!) As well while Sadam never had nukes, this guy actually had them and showed them to the world. Sorry, sports fans. Terrorists don't just wear only wear keffiyeh's We also have to get to a point that the only reaction can be something other then military NY-David Let’s see. If Bush had gone into North Korea in the same mannor he’d done in Iraq, this woudn’t be an issue.
But there were terrorists in Iraq…(not!!)
As well while Sadam never had nukes, this guy actually had them and showed them to the world.
Sorry, sports fans. Terrorists don’t just wear only wear keffiyeh’s
We also have to get to a point that the only reaction can be something other then military
NY-David

]]> By: The Baltimore Reporter http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-639 The Baltimore Reporter Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:45:00 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-639 [...] when the world has no teeth; when the U.S. does have the teeth, but chooses to muzzle its bite. CJ nails it, spot on: North Korea launched a missile over the nation of Japan today in violation of U.N. [...] [...] when the world has no teeth; when the U.S. does have the teeth, but chooses to muzzle its bite. CJ nails it, spot on: North Korea launched a missile over the nation of Japan today in violation of U.N. [...]

]]> By: The Baltimore Reporter http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-638 The Baltimore Reporter Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:41:59 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-638 [...] when the world has no teeth; when the U.S. does have the teeth, but chooses to muzzle its bite. CJ nails it, spot [...] [...] when the world has no teeth; when the U.S. does have the teeth, but chooses to muzzle its bite. CJ nails it, spot [...]

]]> By: Flag Gazer http://militarypundits.com/2009/04/n-korea-tests-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-631 Flag Gazer Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:12:43 +0000 http://militarypundits.com/?p=439#comment-631 "The purpose of diplomacy is not to have a President be popular, it is to persuade allies and enemies to do things that are in the American interest ... it is easy to go in to Europe and impress Europe when you talk like a European; criticizing the United States on its own economic policy, its arrogance, then defer to the European agenda in stead of insisting on our own." -Michael Gerson “The purpose of diplomacy is not to have a President be popular, it is to persuade allies and enemies to do things that are in the American interest … it is easy to go in to Europe and impress Europe when you talk like a European; criticizing the United States on its own economic policy, its arrogance, then defer to the European agenda in stead of insisting on our own.”
-Michael Gerson

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